Fuel Injector sensor problem Need help

Today i consult with my honda workshop in my area about my problem. My problems are
1- Very bad pick
2- Bad fuel consumption
3- RPM restriction up till 6500

They suggest me that it must be fuel injecter sensor which send wrong reading to ecu so ecu put that restriction. So they suggest me to change it but they dont have beat sensor so is it possible that i use civic vtec fuel injector sensor if no then what i do to make that sensor work again. Also if u have ecu technical drawing with all connection detail then provide i will be very thankfull. My email is alishah@mul.paknet.com.pk

Hi,

Best thing I can suggest is to follow the instructions on how to read the fault codes from the ECU

See this page for details

http://www.u-ukhbc.co.uk/troubleshooting.htm

Hopefully it will give you a better answer to your problems.

It might be your wording but I can't seem to find a "fuel injecter sensor" in the codes, although if they mean a "cylinder position sensor" then these are available from Honda as I have recently had mine replaced.

99% of parts seem to be available for the Beat so you shouldn't have to start using bits from other models to make yours work again.

Most of the bits will have to be special ordered from Japan but normally it only takes a few days for bits to arrive.

Hope this helps

Adrian.
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Another page i didn't know existed on my website!!

PW

Tell me in detail where i can find Service Check Connector terminals with a jumper wire. Actually i am really new to beat n cant know what to do n where to find anything. When i turn on ignition the engine check light comes on once n after a few minutes go off is that ok. If no then what i do. Also about injector or clynder sensor what i do about it if my honda dealers dont have it can i use the civic or city model sensor in it. I think they maybe the same. I am from Pakistan so plz help me sort that problem out. I will be really thankfull to u.

Hi,

If you have a read of this post, it covers some of what you need to know on the service connector,

http://www.u-ukhbc.co.uk/vbb/showthr...s=&threadid=87

I have put the picture here for you so that you will have an idea of where to look for the connector

The "Jumper Wire" is literally a piece of wire used to join the 2 terminals together, so should be very easy to make. A modified paperclip would probably do the same job if needed.

Once you have diagnosed the problem, then we should be able to help you with a part number for what you need to order so that you get the correct part for the car.

Hope this helps

Adrian
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This is what you are looking for!

Service Check Connecter location.

It can be taped to the wiring harness with blue tape.
(you can just see some of the tape below the connecter in the pic)

HTH

I have attached the pics of my engine n it shows that there is no service connector in my beat. Also there are many other things missing as compared with upper pic of beat. Can u all see my pics n suggest me what is missing n what i need in my beat. Mine model is 91. Thanks.

But your pic is from the other side! you wont see the service connector by looking from that side!!

What do you think you have missing???

As far as i can see you seem to have some additions which are not standard. not sure what that vacuum control valve is doing on the inlet manifold. whats it been wired in to???

Can u provide me the diagram of all the wires around engine. I think the last user modify the fuels injectors n other vacum control etc. I want to remove all the wiring then re connect it again according to drawing which u provide.

Today when i adjust my valve setting to what u provide me above there is a rattle sound coming out of engine. My rpm still dont go over 6500 n also not stable as it sometime go up to 1400rpm n sometime to 1100 rpm as it is unstable. I will check the other vacum on my exhasut manifold n where it goes. If i get all the drawing of engine n instruction on how to tune engine too then send me that one too. I also attach another pic of mine engine see if that help.

If anyone can provide me drawing of vacum pipes so i take off the additiona part n join the pipes as is it original. Thanks.

Ali.

I have found Service Check Connecter now tell me how i connect it with what thing. Tell me in detail n if possible with pics. Also how i perform all the diagnostic process. Thanks.

Read this article!

http://www.u-ukhbc.co.uk/troubleshooting.htm

Need the wiring diagram for the PGM-FI fuel injection system.

Download the complete beat wiring diagram from



Beat wiring diagram in PDF format and zipped

HTH

First of all Happy X-Mass and Seasons Greetings to all also thanks to u all who r helping me solving my problem. Now after incpected my car for long my technician said that now i should have to adjust the cam belt because its not set. I hope after changing that i my problems will sort out. I again write down my problems.

1- Very bad pick
2- Bad fuel consumption
3- RPM restriction up till 6500

Although my machenic said my car rpm n speed meter is giving false reading too with the difference of almost 700 in rpms reading. If anyone have any other suggestion on how to cure about these problem plz dont hasitate to post.

Where do i get beat car manual online in english. I may need it as i dont know nothing about beat or any other informatic documentation about beat which not mention above n must have for beat user.

I am still unable to know how to use the Service Check Connecter to get the problem code as the information on trouble shooting page is in sufficient for me. So plzz tell me in detail how to use it n if possible tell with figures. Thanks once again for all. I really u ppl help as mechanic works whatever i get info from u as they dont know nothing about beat.

Merry Chrishams and a Happy new year to you too

To get the codes

1.Turn the ignition on

2.Remove the yellow cap covering the connector

3.Use a piece of wire or bent paper clip to join the two connectors together

4.Count the amount of times the yellow/orange light on the dash flashes. The number and lenght of the flashes indicates the problem according to the troubleshooting page:

http://www.u-ukhbc.co.uk/troubleshooting.htm

Hopefully it`ll be sorted soon
HTH
JohnD

Confirm Me.

Read on the website that

http://www.manser42.freeserve.co.uk/page1.html

When setting ignition timming then have to bridge the service connector. Is that important. Thanks.

Hi,

Yes, you do have to bridge the service connector when setting the timing.

This is so that the engine is running at a base set of commands without any advance in the timing being added by the ECU.

So if you follow the instructions as they are set out then you shouldn't have any problems.

Hope this helps

Adrian
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Thanks a lot once again for all of u for my help. Is there any site where i find beat owner manual in english or japanese. Also if rpm restriction n bad pick problem happen with anyone before n what u ppl do to cure it properly. ANy help will be great for me. Thanks.

One thing i get to know is that my cars water body is leaking. What do u ppl think does it cause the problems which i have. Also whats the part no. of the body how much it cost me. Does i use any other cars water body in it. Thanks.

Hi again,

By owners manual, do you mean the repair manual or the manual that tells you how all the controlls work???

If you want a manual on how things work then pop along to this site, Robert might have some left.

http://www.powerup.com.au/%7Ealita/beat/index.htm

Go to the TECH section then to the FAQ section and the details you want should be there.

My beat also has a RPM restriction at the moment (7250), we have changed the following items with no improvement.

Air Filter
Fuel Filter
Spark Plugs
Timing Belt (Timing now perfect)
Distributor Unit
No.1 Cylinder Position Sensor
Oil & Oil Filter


Apart from the RPM problem, mine seems to run fine...:confused:

I'm going to try the Spark Plug Leads and the Exhaust next...

I gather that by, "Water Body" you are refering to the cars Radiator, If so, the normal reason for it to start leaking is due to the car being used without any Anti-Freeze in the coolant.

Even in hot countrys it is advisable to use anti-freeze because it has Rust Inhibitors added to it to try and stop the corrosion of the cooling system.

It looks like the radiator might be used on another Model but I'm not sure which, or the price???

Hope this helps

Adrian.
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