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    nice one I'll check out the link thank you.

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    Bringing this back from the dead! i need one... google translate just doesnt do the trick!

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    I have a pdf of the Japanese Workshop Manual if its of any use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kungfuyou View Post
    I have a pdf of the Japanese Workshop Manual if its of any use?
    I have the jap one too.. i tried using google translate but thats not good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soongster View Post
    I have the jap one too.. i tried using google translate but thats not good enough.
    Which bits do you need translating? Japanese is my second language so I might be able to help. I do have a copy of the workshop manual and parts list.

    Stu
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu g View Post
    Which bits do you need translating? Japanese is my second language so I might be able to help. I do have a copy of the workshop manual and parts list.

    Stu
    at the moment just pages 4-7 to 4-9. Just having some trouble figuring out what to do to order bearings...

    Thanks in advance!

    NOTE TO ALL: AM STILL HUNTING FOR A FULL ENGLISH MANUAL IF ANYONE HAS ONE OR BOUGHT ONE OFF OP. Obviously happy to pay for it

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    Hi Soongster,
    Pages 4-7 to 4-9 are part of the maintenance schedule. Are you sure this is what you want?
    Stu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu g View Post
    Hi Soongster,
    Pages 4-7 to 4-9 are part of the maintenance schedule. Are you sure this is what you want?
    Stu.
    p4-7.pdf yes 4-7 attached.. just making sure we are looking at the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soongster View Post
    p4-7.pdf yes 4-7 attached.. just making sure we are looking at the same thing.
    That's from the Engine manual (60P3600) not the shop manual (60SS100)

    I have never seen any other language manual apart from Japanese, basically because the Beat was a Japan only model.

    There are copies of the wiring diagram about which I translated to English.
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    Here you go, hope this helps:

    Engine Manual 4 - 7: Oil clearance measurement
    Main bearing

    Caution
    • Ensure that you measure in the correct axis.
    • Don’t measure the crankshaft on an off-centre angle, and don’t rotate the crankshaft (translation note: whilst you have a plastigauge clamped in)

    1. Take the cap and bearing off. When you put it back on use the correct torque.
    2. Cut the plastigauge the same length as the axial direction (translation note: width of the journal bearing) and place it on top of the crankshaft journal.
    3. Place and tighten the cap at the correct torque (4.8kg-m).
    4. Remove the cap and use the scale on the bag that the plastigauge came in to understand the measurement. Use the fattest part of the width for the measurement.

    Journal oil clearance:
    Normal: No1 and No4 journal = 0.016mm to 0.032mm
    Service limit: 0.05mm

    Left hand image here

    5. When the measurement is in excess of the limit, inspect for block expansion or friction, and if there is no abnormality then use an undersize bearing and re-check the clearance.


    Conrod bearing
    Caution
    • Ensure that you measure in the correct axis.
    • Don’t rotate the crankshaft when you are tightening or loosening the conrod.

    1. Take the cap and bearing off. When you put it back on use the correct torque.
    2. Cut the plastigauge to length and place it on the crankshaft pin.
    3. Place and tighten the cap at the correct torque (3.2kg-m).
    4. Remove the cap and use the scale on the bag that the plastigauge came in to understand the measurement. Use the fattest part of the width for the measurement.

    Pin oil clearance:
    Normal: 0.020mm to 0.038mm
    Service limit: 0.05mm

    Right hand image here

    5. When the measurement is in excess of the limit, inspect for block expansion or friction, and if there is no abnormality then use an undersize bearing and re-check the clearance.
    Last edited by stu g; 24-10-2017 at 11:19 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu g View Post
    Here you go, hope this helps:

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    thanks! legend!

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    I do wonder if there would be any demand for the whole thing in English?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu g View Post
    I do wonder if there would be any demand for the whole thing in English?

    1 here

    pretty sure there's demand for it.

    got a few people asking on the FB groups for an English version. haha

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    OK, so here is page 4 -8. Sorry that the tables don't paste in well. You might have to cut and paste them out in to Excel.

    Engine Manual 4 – 8 Metal selection, mating
    Main bearing
    Caution
    • If you hare changing the main bearing, look up the crankshaft bearing mating mark and the cylinder block hole mating mark against the table.
    • When you have inserted the new bearing, measure the oil clearance.


    Cylinder block image - No1 journal, No4 journal
    Translator’s note (the first letter “C” is the No 1 journal, second is No2 journal etc)

    Cylinder block hole (44mm)
    Mating mark Data
    No2 and No3 journal No 1 and No4 journal
    A +0.000mm to +0.006mm -0.006mm to +0.000mm
    B +0.006mm to +0.012mm +0.000mm to +0.006mm
    C +0.012mm to +0.018mm +0.006mm to +0.012mm
    D +0.018mm to + 0.024mm +0.012mm to +0.018mm

    Crankshaft image – Crankshaft journal mating mark stamp
    No1 journal, No 4 journal
    Translator’s note (the first number “2” is the No 1 journal, second is No2 journal etc)

    Shell bearing image (right hand side of page) – align the notch in the correct place. Note the colour mark on the side of the shell.
    Selection table
    Bearing thickness is 2mm
    Mark Colour mark Data
    G Red 0.000mm to -0.003mm
    F Pink +0.003mm to 0.000mm
    E Yellow +0.006mm to +0.003mm
    D Green +0.009mm to + +0.006mm
    C Brown +0.012mm to +0.009mm
    B Black +0.015mm to +0.012mm
    A Blue +0.018mm to +0.015mm

    Each bearing colour goes up in 0.003mm increments.
    Main bearing mating table
    Crankshaft journal mating mark Cylinder block hole mating mark
    A B C D
    Bearing side colour
    1 Red Pink Yellow Green
    2 Pink Yellow Green Brown
    3 Yellow Green Brown Black
    4 Green Brown Black Blue

    It might be expected that the housing may have expanded following any incident.
    These are set up so that, as before, No1 journal is 0.016mm to 0.032mm, and No2 and No3 journals are 0.020mm to 0.028mm.
    Caution: Don’t just rely upon this table, ensure that you measure the oil clearance again afterwards.
    Last edited by stu g; 30-10-2017 at 10:57 PM.
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    HI Jason

    I would like a copy of the manual, just have 2 questions.

    1- is the manual in english?
    2- how can I pay?


    Thank you

    Joao

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    Engine Manual 4 – 9 Metal selection, mating
    Conrod Bearing
    Caution:
    • When you change the conrod bearing use the table to look up the crankshaft pin and conrod marks.
    • When you fit the bearing, ensure that you measure the oil clearance along the axial direction.


    Conrod bearing table
    Crankshaft pin mating mark Conrod mating mark
    1 2 3 4
    Bearing table (translator’s note: table below this one)
    A Red Pink Yellow Green
    B Pink Yellow Green Brown
    C Yellow Green Brown Black
    D Green Brown Black Blue

    Note that the oil clearance may have expanded following any incident.
    These are set up so that, the oil clearance is between are 0.020mm to 0.038mm.

    Colour selection table
    Note that the bearing thickness is 1.5mm

    Mark Colour mark Data
    G Red -0.005mm to -0.008mm
    F Pink -0.002mm to 0.005mm
    E Yellow +0.001mm to 0.002mm
    D Green +0.004mm to +0.001mm
    C Brown +0.007mm to +0.004mm
    B Black +0.010mm to +0.007mm
    A Blue +0.013mm to +0.010mm

    Each bearing colour goes up in 0.003mm increments.
    Image top right (crankshaft)
    No1 pin
    No3 pin
    Conrod bearing mating mark stamp position
    Image centre right (conrod main bearing end) – shows position of mating mark
    Image bottom right (shell bearing) – align the notch in the correct place. Note the colour mark on the side of the shell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu g View Post
    Engine Manual 4 – 9 Metal selection, mating
    Conrod Bearing
    thanks a bunch stu!

    also if you happen to translate the whole manual hit me up i will gladly pay for your services.

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    I have not tried myself as I don't use a smartphone but I understand there are apps which allow you to photograph text (including japanese) and it will translate. How well it would work with a technical subject may be open to question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawrenceHarding View Post
    I have not tried myself as I don't use a smartphone but I understand there are apps which allow you to photograph text (including japanese) and it will translate. How well it would work with a technical subject may be open to question.
    I just tried the google translate app via a photo of the shop manual and it works pretty well.

    First paragraph of page 5-10

    Engine adjustment - Check compression pressure * Check after warming up (before and after radiator-A fan twice) until the engine warms up.)
    1 Remove the engine room cover (5-3)
    2) Remove the 10 A fuse of the fuel pump and stop the operation of the fuel pump
    3 Remove the center code of the distributor and ground it as shown in the figure Center code 1 leg les, 1 pane 1
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