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    Fixing Engine - Need Parts

    I'm going to have a local shop look at my piston ring issue to see if I can get the beat working (after 2 years in the garage)

    I emailed Ask-Net who gave me the part numbers for a piston ring set as 13011-P36-003

    but i found on the forums for piston ring set with 0.5mm oversized is 13031-P36-003
    how do I know which is the right one?

    and my mech suggested to replace the rod bearings while doing the piston rings, does anyone have part # for that? it's not the same as main bearings is it?

    also, any part # for valve seals?
    I figure do everything now while the engine is apart.

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    Id stick with the standard size piston rings unless your going to rebore and fit oversize pistons as well.

    You will want a top end gasket set 06110-P36-000 which will get you your valve stem seals along with every gasket and seal associated with the cylinder head.

    Bearings, you will need to get the numbers from your rods and crank to work out which bearings that you need. There are 7 differant sizes.

    Let me know your rod/crank markings and i can tell you which part number shells you need.

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    It'll be hard to get the numbers from the rod/crank until I get it to the mech

    is it really necessary to do the rod bearings?

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    Does anyone know the part number for the oil pump?

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    P07A vs. Beat engine

    The half put a large crease in our Mazda last night and rented a Honda Life until it's repaired. The engine looks a lot like the one in the Beat, and the car spec says it is a P07A. Anyone know if parts are interchangeable with the E07A?


    Past Hondas:
    1960 125cc Honda Benly CB92R
    1964 305cc Super Hawk CB77, the only vehicle I have ever bought new in my life!
    Honda CB160, roadraced as 175cc 1967-1970.
    Honda Lawnmower, bought used in 2003, caught fire and melted in 2005.

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    According to one of the Japanese auction sites the PO7A is 658cc, has different bore and stroke and only 6 valves so probably not.

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    Just a quick update

    The engine is now back at my mechanics after going to machine shop to balancing shop to machine shop. Apparently, 3-cyl engines aren't common over here and balancing was a huge undertaking.

    Oversized pistons are in and everything is very nice and ported.
    Head has been worked on as well, including valves

    Mechanic is going to start putting it all back together, including timing belt, water pump, oil pump, clutch, flywheel etc.
    I've ordered a stainless exhaust manifold and looking at getting an HKS legal exhaust and coilover suspension with some strut tower bars. Mitsu funnels too. Other stuff on the way as well.

    Hopefully it'll be all done by month end
    Last edited by maiku; 18-03-2011 at 03:53 PM.

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    some pics of the engine
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    wow - that looks great! which pistons and valve springs did you go for in the end? bet you cant wait til its all finished.

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    Comes from here

    http://imazu-s.web.infoseek.co.jp/psioriginalparts.html

    0.5mm pistons
    11,500 rpm valve springs

    even my mech says he can't wait to see when it's done

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    The engine was back together and running for a bit, until the "brand new" water pump started to leak out the weep holes like a fire hose

    had to take the engine back out and the faulty pump was replaced with a non-leaking one.

    Ran into code 9 error though. Various fixed didn't seem to help so a new distributor is on it's way. In the meantime, it runs and no longer blows smokes

    Just have to drain the bad gas and go through emissions.
    Distributor will be replaced when it comes in with the new dash parts and hard top
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    Quote Originally Posted by maiku View Post
    The engine was back together and running for a bit, until the "brand new" water pump started to leak out the weep holes like a fire hose

    had to take the engine back out and the faulty pump was replaced with a non-leaking one.

    Ran into code 9 error though. Various fixed didn't seem to help so a new distributor is on it's way. In the meantime, it runs and no longer blows smokes

    Just have to drain the bad gas and go through emissions.
    Distributor will be replaced when it comes in with the new dash parts and hard top
    Nice job,

    Regarding your "code 9" I had a similar issue. This post is the one that solved mine:

    http://www.u-ukhbc.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=3234

    Good luck

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    My mechanic tried your fix, but it just resulted in timing issues and stalling.

    He took the distributor out and found the sensor was made of rust

    A new one is probably a better idea.

    It runs fine, just has a code 9.

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    very nice! the interior looks amazing - cant wait to see it all come together. congrats on the hard top too!

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    awesome 11,500 rpm sounds tasty

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    Quote Originally Posted by maiku View Post
    My mechanic tried your fix, but it just resulted in timing issues and stalling.

    He took the distributor out and found the sensor was made of rust

    A new one is probably a better idea.

    It runs fine, just has a code 9.
    Hope the new Dizzy solves it the Code 9 for you. I found it very frustrating as the car was running well too.

    Looks like you're going to have a very tidy Beat when it's all back together. I too will be looking forwards to seeing the photos.

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    It'll only be 10,000 rpm as limited by the chip (probably a good idea)

    Exhaust is on now, and the engine is running! No smoke!
    Engine needs to break in before going to emissions, so coilovers and rims are being put in.

    I also managed to get calipers from an EP3 civic, so we'll see if I can upgrade to 10.2" disks

    also need to decide what colour to paint the hard top
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    Back on the road!

    The beat passed emissions with flying colours after a new cat was put in.

    Front civic calipers fit, but needed to be ground down as the rotor was catching on it. Beat stops super strong now with the vented discs instead of the poor solid ones.
    Rear calipers fit as well, but there's an issue with the handbrake cable so that's something to do later.

    The chip is being put in next week, so the engine isn't as running as smooth as it should. Pinging quite a bit, even on the highest octane.

    new distributor was put in and seemed to fix the code. the old one had a chipped tooth.

    Can't take the car too high right now as it's still being broken in, but even at 5000rpm it's quite fun.

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    Beat is done!
    At least the engine part of it is.

    Put in a new ECU chip that I got from japhoo auction.
    http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b116484953

    I got the 10,000 rpm model.

    Mech had to back off the timing, even after putting in the chip. This is even running on the highest octane we have here. Gets a bit of pinging in the low 2500 rpm. It sounds a lot better in the high 5k rpm. It revs into the red with no problem. I haven't tried to push it any further than 10K. Still a bit scared to blow it up.


    Also managed to fit some EP3 civic brackets on the rear brakes. They extend the caliper further out so I can fit the larger 10.2" discs. Tried the whole civic caliper, but ran into handbrake issues.

    The rest of the interior/exterior parts are coming by boat in a month's time.

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    sounds good!

    you guys only run 93 octane over in canada don't you? over here in the uk the normal stuff is 95 and the supers vary from 97-99

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