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    Quote Originally Posted by steveinjapan View Post
    Do you happen to have the numbers handy for the stop, tail, park and number plate lights?
    Stop/Tail Lights are the standard 1157 Bayonet Type. I ended up going for 20 Super Bright Flux LED's which do the job fantastically.

    The Park Lights are T10 Bulbs as is the number plate.

    I went for 13 LED T10 bulbs for the park lights. Note: There is a grommet you can remove in the wheel arch to get easy access. (It took me a while to figure that one out!!!!)

    For the Number plate bulb I used a 9 LED T10 (but you could probably get away with less).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigB View Post
    Maybe try the 35watt HIDs also to help with that. 3 times as bright as the 55w incandescent h4h.

    http://page15.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/j...ion/t202316704
    Fantastic, The elusive H4h HID bulb. About as easy to find as rocking horse poo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsessive View Post
    Stop/Tail Lights are the standard 1157 Bayonet Type. I ended up going for 20 Super Bright Flux LED's which do the job fantastically.

    The Park Lights are T10 Bulbs as is the number plate.

    I went for 13 LED T10 bulbs for the park lights. Note: There is a grommet you can remove in the wheel arch to get easy access. (It took me a while to figure that one out!!!!)

    For the Number plate bulb I used a 9 LED T10 (but you could probably get away with less).
    Thanks! I was looking at various assortments sold on Yahoo.jp -- most include backup lights but not stop/tail lights. I think bright backups are a good idea too but wasn't sure if they make the LED replacement for the 1157. Now I'll go look around in the shops.

    Steve


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    Question: the regular 1157 bulb has a 5-watt and a 27-watt filament, so the brake light flashes much brighter than the running light. Do the 1157-replacement LEDs also do this?

    (Coincidentally on a nice ride back from the beach today I had to jam on the brakes hard to avoid hitting a car in front of me with only one dim brake light.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by steveinjapan View Post
    Question: the regular 1157 bulb has a 5-watt and a 27-watt filament, so the brake light flashes much brighter than the running light. Do the 1157-replacement LEDs also do this?
    Fair question, I had the same concerns before I changed the bulbs. Yes they do shine brighter with the brake applied.

    My tail/brake lights are about the same brightness as the original bulbs. They are certainly more red. The spoiler brake light is still the factory set up so should give you a good comparison. Number plate is now much brighter as you can see.
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    Spot the difference!

    Just went outside to swap one over. Left is factory bulb. right is LED bulb.
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    Thanks for the info and photos. Now, one important question (which I would not have thought of until one EBay ad mentioned it) --- are you using red or white LED bulbs for the brake/stop? The ad said you should use red behind a red lens. That makes sense, but so does white.....


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    Honda CB160, roadraced as 175cc 1967-1970.
    Honda Lawnmower, bought used in 2003, caught fire and melted in 2005.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveinjapan View Post
    Thanks for the info and photos. Now, one important question (which I would not have thought of until one EBay ad mentioned it) --- are you using red or white LED bulbs for the brake/stop? The ad said you should use red behind a red lens. That makes sense, but so does white.....
    I went with the red ones and am very happy with them. I see no reason why the white ones wouldn't work, but felt the red ones would be a safer bet.

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    Great - I just sent a mail to an online shop that has all of the LEDs instead of shopping around, and am waiting for a price.

    Next - headlamps.


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    1964 305cc Super Hawk CB77, the only vehicle I have ever bought new in my life!
    Honda CB160, roadraced as 175cc 1967-1970.
    Honda Lawnmower, bought used in 2003, caught fire and melted in 2005.

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    Cool, I think I'll have to add some H4h HID bulbs to my shopping list soon.

    Remember that the LED bulbs are directional when you come to fit them. I found it rather amusing when all 4 of my dash ones were the wrong way on my 1st attempt! What are the bloody odds on that

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    Just a note... If you go with the LED signal lights you will need an "electronic flasher" or some resistor loads as they will flash too fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigB View Post
    Just a note... If you go with the LED signal lights you will need an "electronic flasher" or some resistor loads as they will flash too fast.
    I was planning to not do the flashers for that reason.

    Re: headlamps - I don't especially want to go with HIDs, so is there some source for the 702K halogen bulbs? Are they the same as H4H??? I could use a bit more light.
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    Honda Lawnmower, bought used in 2003, caught fire and melted in 2005.

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    according to bulbs I bought in japan from autobacs, 702k are the same as H4H

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    Thanks - I will grab some bright white H4H bulbs today. Is there any trick to replacing them? I assume the alignment remains as-is.


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    1964 305cc Super Hawk CB77, the only vehicle I have ever bought new in my life!
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    Honda Lawnmower, bought used in 2003, caught fire and melted in 2005.

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    No trick. Basically, there's a metal hinge that goes behind the bulb. You push inward, then downward and the hinge comes out. Then replace the bulb. There's only one way it will fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maiku View Post
    No trick. Basically, there's a metal hinge that goes behind the bulb. You push inward, then downward and the hinge comes out. Then replace the bulb. There's only one way it will fit.
    Easy - once you know how. Thanks. I got some PIAA Xtreme White bulbs, and I'm eager to see how they go tonite in the rain. At double the price of H4's I hope they will be good!). LEDs are ordered for tail/stop and front marker. I'll forgo the license light, just cleaned the soot out of the lens.

    Steve
    Last edited by steveinjapan; 02-06-2011 at 07:41 AM.


    Past Hondas:
    1960 125cc Honda Benly CB92R
    1964 305cc Super Hawk CB77, the only vehicle I have ever bought new in my life!
    Honda CB160, roadraced as 175cc 1967-1970.
    Honda Lawnmower, bought used in 2003, caught fire and melted in 2005.

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    Headlight lens foggy

    New bulbs make the difference between my lenses stick out like a sore thumb.

    There was a thread about using Pikal metal polish on the rear top window. Has anyone ever tried it as a plastic lens polishing compound? I know there are loads of special ones on the market but since I have some Pikal I thought I'd give it a try.


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    Honda CB160, roadraced as 175cc 1967-1970.
    Honda Lawnmower, bought used in 2003, caught fire and melted in 2005.

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    i had the PIAA's in my old lights before they got trashed - they were great! ive not got round to replacing them yet but i've been meaning to get round to it.
    i used meguirs plastic-X polish on my old lights and it brought them up a treat!

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    I think Pikal/Brasso is the same as Meguiars and other polishing compounds, plus some oxide-reducing chemical that makes the rags stink, but it works just fine on plastic. Brilliant! Will do my other car tomorrow.

    Steve
    Last edited by steveinjapan; 03-06-2011 at 01:08 PM.


    Past Hondas:
    1960 125cc Honda Benly CB92R
    1964 305cc Super Hawk CB77, the only vehicle I have ever bought new in my life!
    Honda CB160, roadraced as 175cc 1967-1970.
    Honda Lawnmower, bought used in 2003, caught fire and melted in 2005.

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    LED light bulbs

    I installed T10 LED front parking lamps and red 24-LED 1157 replacements for the stop/tail. Granted my old bulbs looked pretty used up, but the difference is amazing.

    I can provide the contact for an excellent LED supplier in Taiwan if anyone desires it.
    Last edited by steveinjapan; 07-06-2011 at 03:28 PM.


    Past Hondas:
    1960 125cc Honda Benly CB92R
    1964 305cc Super Hawk CB77, the only vehicle I have ever bought new in my life!
    Honda CB160, roadraced as 175cc 1967-1970.
    Honda Lawnmower, bought used in 2003, caught fire and melted in 2005.

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