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  1. #1
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    Yet another audio solution...

    A fair bit of research led me to go the 2 double DIN route in order to update things. Having navigation available to me was really a big consideration (my passenger is dyslexic and hates giving directions), but I wasn't too keen on spending 20,000円 on a pre fabbed console. So the idea is to make my own from fibreglass. Honestly I haven't gotten that far yet as I found wiring things up to be a huge task in and of itself.

    So, mine was one of the many with dash speakers, but no Clarion CD changer. The dash speakers are finicky and a bit ugly IMO, so I removed them entirely and wanted to run the front channels to the door speakers and the rear channels to the mini sub in the centre console. Or course all the drivers were shot, so I replaced the door speakers with standard 18cm speakers from Autobacs (maybe not so standard depending on where you live...). The sub was quite a trick, but I found this item that fits and works perfectly.

    After the drivers were changed, the head unit needed to be wired up. I decided to use the factory Pioneer amp that fits in the sub enclosure, and no regrets there as this is all you need to power such a small driver. However, I quickly encountered a problem in that there were apparently NO wiring diagrams or pinouts available for the factory audio system whatsoever, so rather than solder everything in blind. I disassembled the Pioneer amp and Gathers head unit and took notes of everything scribed on their PCBs. From that, and some notes from guys that have a similar setup in the Honda Prelude I made these:

    Pioneer amp pinout: http://imgur.com/a/6qh6B

    Gathers head unit pinout: http://imgur.com/a/xPHdc

    It might be pointless, but I figure someone out there will benefit from this data and not have to spend 2 days scratching their head like I did. As for me, the head unit install was a success and I now have a system that yields good, clear, loud sound from the door speakers and full, strong, resonant bass from the sub. The only drawback is a few songs with higher tinnier notes seem to break up slightly. I might be able to cure this by massaging my presets, but I guess a pair of tweeters might be needed.

    I'll post pictures when I get the console worked out, as for now it's pretty ugly.

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    Great stuff, the pin-outs will definitely come in handy at some point for me. Thanks for sharing! looking forward to the pictures when your setup is finished.

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    Thanks, will help me fit a DAB unit and an amp

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    Thanks for waiting. Here is the second (and last?) instalment.

    So after the wiring was all taken care of and properly soldered in place, it became clear the whole dash would need to be removed to get things cut properly. So with the dash out I first attempted to bend the support bracket to allow for the head unit to fit, this turned out to be disastrous as it caused the whole dash to bend unperceptibly, until I attempted to bolt it back it that is.

    So back to kitchen (ahem... workshop) and I decided the only way this would work well was if I cut the support bracket such as to allow enough room for the head unit to fit. I wish I had more pictures of that process as it involved setting the angle at which the head unit would fit. Also at this stage I installed 2 more bits of metal strapping to hold the head unit in. (I'm using 6 total, 4 on the head unit and 2 to hold the logicon in place.)

    http://imgur.com/a/6HThV

    In the end while this project wasn't too expensive, the amount of work required took me well over 2 weeks of working on this nearly every day over the past month. Difficulty level: Absurd. Its nice to have my car modernized, but technically I couldn't even manage to finish things properly as the console is not the prettiest affair. I'm not even sure it's worth it, but at the end of the day, it sure is nice to have satnav. :|

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    Nice job, even if not 100% tidy.


    Past Hondas:
    1960 125cc Honda Benly CB92R
    1964 305cc Super Hawk CB77, the only vehicle I have ever bought new in my life!
    Honda CB160, roadraced as 175cc 1967-1970.
    Honda Lawnmower, bought used in 2003, caught fire and melted in 2005.

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    Very nice,
    I am currently working on better dash speakers and adding DAB but keeping original head unit

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